Thanks to everyone who viewed the piece and provided suggestions. The feedback was excellent! After a lot of thought, I have started the next version of this piece. I am happy to report that it is almost ready to photograph. About ten more hours to go if everything goes well. Even though I have incorporated lots of changes as suggested by you, I still tried some more experimental things. I will be interested to see what everyone thinks of the new piece. 
     Several people said they would like to own the original piece. Instead, we are going to give the second version of the Arts and Crafts Lidded Vessel to one lucky person who posts comments about this piece. Below are the entry rules. 

To be entered in the random drawing for the second version of the Arts and Crafts Covered Vessel you must critique the second piece (hopefully taking into consideration the first piece and Jim's design goals) and you must also indicate that you would like to own this piece. We will draw a name on Dec. 20th. Be sure to include your email address so we can contact you if you win.


        Make sure that your email address is obvious to us. We plan to put the winner's name on our site so you need to know ahead of time that everybody else will know your name. 

Thanks so much for your help.
Jim Christiansen
Kestrel Creek Gallery
November 18, 2000



 I do my best planning late in the evening. On those nights when sleep doesn't come easily, I try to spend my time trying to think of new projects. Some work out and some don't. I was excited to try the lidded container shown here. In my mind I pictured a piece that would be at home among in a turn of the century house among Stickley or Greene and Greene  furniture. I wanted a piece that would blend into and enhance such an environment. I set out to capture the essence of the pottery of the time and to express it with the beauty of maple burl.


Click Here to see the Second Edition of the Arts and Crafts Covered Vessel


 

            
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8.5" Tall by 5.5" Dia
Maple Burl - Carved and Colored
Pipestone finial

   

  As you can see this piece falls a bit short in terms of over all impact and
quality. I'm not sure what, if anything I can do to make the concept into the piece I originally envisioned.
  I would appreciate your suggestions. I plan to make another one if I receive new ideas to make it better. So let me know what you think should be done. We will post pictures of the next attempt so you can see how the critique--collaboration process works for us. Thanks, Jim

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Overall, I really like this piece. It is an unusual shape. I see it fitting well in an Arts & Crafts environment. The piece is large enough to be useful yet the wall thickness makes it light and delicate.

Looking at the container part first, the line that defines the sides of the container is smooth and flowing. The narrowest portion of the container is 2/5's or so down from the rim. This provides nice interesting asymmetry. The feet are nicely proportioned and they gently lift the container off of the table creating a nice shadow line. I like how the feet correspond to the carved panels. The container's carving is its weakest part. The carving doesn't stand out enough. The same carving done on a light colored wood may have looked better. With the beautifully figured burl that this piece was created from, it would have been better off with less carving. In this case less is more. Just the panels and some texturing done sparingly would have created an understated elegance that is the hallmark of Arts & Crafts pottery.

The lid’s shape is excellent. The pedals match up thematically with the panels on the container. I love how the petals meet at the top of the lid. The fit of the lid allows for this box to be used one handed and is such that you don't have to worry about the fit changing with time. The weakest parts of the lid are the color and the finial. A lid that is a different color from its container can be very dramatic as long as the overall color scheme is unified. The pink pipestone finial really doesn't match and maybe that is because the color isn't unified with any other color in the piece. It does add some interest in that it is mounted in the opposite plane as the lid.

My suggestions for the next "Arts and Crafts Box" are:

  1. less carving
  2. a more unified and/or subtle color scheme
  3. lighter colored wood if a pictorial scene is carved in the panels
  4. redesign the finial so that it fits into the theme of the piece (possibly a tree shape in this case)

Will Simpson


The profile of the entire piece -without the finial-is very nice.  I really think the feet add a great deal by elevating the piece if only slightly.  The feet themselves work well and do not detract with their utilitarian design. 

The coloring of the piece overall is very contrasting.  The top is a beautiful shade of purple, while the body is dull brown.  I think the amount of burl figure showing through is just right.

The finial simply doesn't work for me.  It doesn't go with the piece and even off the piece it doesn't work.  However, pipestone could work, but I think the shape should be similar to the body and possibly fluted like the top.

The carving on the body, while not especially detailed or intricate, add feel to the piece.  I also like how they continue from panel to panel.  The trees are unnecessary.

Ben Carpenter


This is a beautiful piece!!  I'd give my left arm, my turning chisels and my lathe to be able to envision, design and make something like this!!

Harry - Lynden, Ontario


First of all, I love this box! What comes to my mind, rather than Stickley, though, is a sort of Anglo-Saxon feel. It brings me images of Camelot. The carving to me looks like armor plate. At least in the picture, it looks almost metallic in that way, and the coloring of the lid suggests leather. The proportions are excellent, and I like the way the feet lift the otherwise robust shape off the table just a bit. The finial, too, reminds me of Old English or Celtic origins.
I think this piece would have cross-gender appeal, as the body is very masculine, yet the finial is very feminine. I think it all works.

Jim Gott - San Jose, California


This is a beautiful piece of work overall. I agree with the others that the lid doesn't fit. The shape, to me, suggests a flagon (we need a scale reference in the picture)

I think the color in the burl is suggestive of snow capped mountains, the carving breaks up the "scene".

The feet are nice, just enough to give it a shadow line, understated.

The lid forces it into being a box, but with free form sculpture I think you would want to leave it to the viewer what it's function is.

Very nice work though.

Mark Lambert - Florida


A beautiful piece that brings to mind walnut panels, old leather and dark dens.  I like the finial, but I am not sure of the pipestone.  Pipestone, to me, is too symbolic of its use.  Too light and ceremonial for something of this "weight".  I like the color of the top.  Agree with other comments about lighter color for use on the bottom of the next box, but with the same color scheme on top.

Dusty Varmint - Southeast Wisconsin


I agree with one of the other comments, that it reminds me more of Old English or Celtic.  Even the feet suggest the walls of a turret on an old castle. I like the way the carved panels flow with the carved lid.  But I think just the panels would be just enough to give the piece elegance.  The rest of the carving seems to be too busy.
The combination of the colors is nice, but the white is a little distracting.  Overall, the piece is tremendous and obviously required a lot of time, planning and patience.  Maybe someday, I'll be able to stick with a project that long. Thanks for sharing it with us in this forum.  As a novice, it really makes me think.

Danny Wells - Natchitoches, LA


First of all, my compliments on the idea and the courage to take this first step.  This should be a good forum for learning and discussion.

I have a teacher who told me that the essence of good design is knowing when to stop.  I have a feeling that this was really two pieces.  I liked the bottom.  It reminded me of a piece of Roseville pottery.  The color was  nicely done but the carving could have ended with the completion of the panels.  The detail carving was a little too fussy. The top was technically superb but overpowered the base. I would be more comfortable if the top were used on a taller, 'basic egg' vessel or similar.  The soapstone carving seems to detract from the lovely lines of the carving, perhaps a more linear approach would be better. Technically superb work but too much packed into too small a space.

Phil Wall - Philadelphia, PA


This is the work of a skilled turner.  Well done nicely displayed and well photographed.
  It is also a very clever way to gain "free" exposure for your web site and your products. I am uncomfortable with this. You could have posted the piece without the rest of the site and still gotten the critique you desire.

Harry A De Vrieze 


First it must be said that the turning and carving are extremely good. The overall shape is appealing as is the carving design. I think however there is too much colour and although the finial/handle match the lid pattern I would like to have seen a turned version. I still feel wrong in criticizing something that I don't have the skills to achieve but you did ask.

Andy Ball -  Georgetown, Ont. Canada


This is a splendid piece I would be proud to own and even more proud to have created myself.  On a scale of 100 I would rate this piece a 98.  So please understand my critique and suggestions would likely not improve the overall rating of the piece.  But at the same time I feel compelled to put in my 2 cents.

Overall I like the profile.  A canister with a waist is a basic and attractive shape.  I would prefer the waist a bit lower and more symmetry in the profile of the body.

The carving is busy and detracts from the graceful lines.  Sometimes a piece NEEDS carving.  Sometimes it doesn't matter and in this case it detracts.

The ogee of the lid is very nice and very much in keeping with the profile of the piece.  The fluting of the lid is unnecessary and adds nothing to the piece.  The color is distracting and unnecessary given the outstanding figure of the wood.  Perhaps if the wood lacked figure the carving and color would enhance the piece instead of detracting from the primary qualities (profile and burl figure).

Others have mentioned the finial.  I don't have anything to add to that.

What I would do different?

Simplify.  When I look at arts and crafts "stuff" I see simple with subtle curves to enhance the work.

An even waist (maybe a little higher than middle).  The foot would be a wavy ring to give a shadow line and multiple points of contact but maintain the "turning" features of the piece.  For the lid I would do little or no overhang with a slightly more pronounced ogee.  The knob would be more of a flower shape with perhaps some coloring and carving to make it look a bit more organic.

Richard Allen - Falls Church, VA


I like the way it looks old. Invites you to want to pick it up and look at it. Like Andy I can't carve and design items like this. Artistic woodworking is
on another level to the woodworking I do.

Bryan Cowing


First of all, this is a lovely piece that many would be absolutely delighted to have made. So the comments you are going to receive are nit-picking, pain-in-the-ass types but here goes!
I feel that the carving on the panels on the body is not needed. It does not add anything to the piece and therefore only can detract from it. A reasonably polished surface here would look good ala the inside of the lid. The frosted/hammered look on the base/lower portion is great, very clean and must give a beautiful texture when you hold it.
The lid is good, esp. the segments, but I think a simpler finial in either the same timber as the body or maybe in ebony would look better. The finial would then look more "turned" and less "button-like".

Over all know that this is a good piece that you can be proud of and don't think you're doing anything wrong by ignoring the comments!

Francis Morrin - Ireland


Superb piece!  I hope someday to approach the talent and insight that Jim Christiansen has shown in abundance.  I am obviously years from reaching that expertise.  I'm flattered to be able to be part of a critique and I hope my impressions as an "intermediate" turner of only two years of serious experience will be of some value so here goes....

First impression = Wow!

Second impression = Why such a purple top?

Third impression = Oh, the carving's color at the box's base matches the top to some degree, yet the top still seems too intense.

Fourth impression = Carving and shape is very appealing. It gives me a wonderful medieval feel and I'm quite attracted to it.

Fifth impression = Love the feet.  It really sets off and fits the entire theme.

Sixth impression = That finial is OK but too overpowering.  It draws too much attention to itself and pulls me away from the rest of the piece.  I would have preferred to have seen something more cone shaped (flattened cone) perhaps with vertical carved lines to better match the carvings of the lid and box walls and compliment, rather than overwhelm, this work of art.

Seventh impression = After looking at the inside cover of the lid my heart sunk.  What a beautiful burl it must have been.  I would have preferred that this beautiful work had been done on a more boring piece of wood and the burl saved for a design that showed off the figure.

Overall impression = Wonderful piece that I would have been very proud to have been the creator of or lucky owner.

Craig - Adrian, Michigan


I have pulled this piece up many times to view and to pull together some of my thoughts about it.  As a novice, looking at a beautiful piece, I really like it.  Since I don't know much about arts and crafts design, I will comment purely on what I see as a buyer or gallery visitor:

Is the "knob" on the top of the box called a finial??  See, I told you I was a novice.  Anyway, I think that you could rethink the design of the "finial".  It doesn't seem to tie in with the rest of the design. Also, the lid seems to be more elegantly finished than the rest of the piece.  Should this be? I love the colors, and your carving. It reminds me of the designs that I saw in the arts and crafts section of the Institute of Art in Chicago. So, I think you have captured the philosophy. They had a whole section of Frank Lloyd Wright and arts and crafts combined in one area.

It is difficult to critique another's work, when you aren't accomplished in that particular area yourself.  But, here goes.  You asked for it.

Connie  - Cleveland, Ohio 


Having reviewed the prior comments, I agree with the "old" English commentary.  It does seem to me that the bottom is a bit too busy & "masculine" with the contrasting top being "feminine". While mated nicely, I try to avoid mixing the two in a piece. The tree seems to be a bit much and over emphasizes the carving, thus detracting from the balance of the price. 

Without question this a nice gallery piece which would attract significant attention.  The finial is a bit of distraction as others have noted.  However it is in tune with the feminine character of the top.

A nice concept well executed and hard to criticize in any way.

Royce -  Wichita, Kansas USA


This piece evokes a lotus floating on a screen of mountains and clouds. Purple mountains majesty, etc.  I don't know why you would want to compare it to the second piece because though they are similar in shape, their impact is very different.  Beautiful work.  Yes, you can send it to me if you draw my name.

Linda


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